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Cossacks and Jews?

Rather than writing an entirely new note, I (Cgingold) will simply re-post the comments on this subject from Talk:Cossack:

As a Jew (by birth rather than religion, of which I have none) I was astounded to see so little (only one fleeting reference) about the Cossack brutality toward Jews. I have a great deal of respect for the democratic aspects of Cossack society, but their role, under various regimes, in suppressing the democratic aspirations of other groups (including Jews) should have been described in more detail. I might add that, in the past, one of the most insulting things that a Jew could say about a person would be to call him a Cossack. Too Old 22:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the context of the 15th-18th centuries, the Jews often served as middlemen between the oppressive landlords and the peasants, often working as tax collectors or some such jobs. This was not their choice, the laws forbade them from owning property and the Jews certainly did not create this system, they just survived in it. But when peasants and cossacks revolted, this frequently made the Jews a target of assault and they suffered significant casualties. You are correct that a heading belongs on this subject. Faustian 22:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I too was astonished to find only a single fleeting reference to this subject in both this article and Cossack. I haven't gone through the edit history, but I would not be surprised if there was material dealing with this subject that was removed at some point. In any event, the article is seriously defective without a section devoted to this issue. I hope it will be rectified sooner rather than later. Cgingold 12:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Statements and Citations

It seems that most of the "Early History" section was written by one author and one or two references. I have put citation tags for at least a month on many paragraphs, and none have been added. I tried to find some, but could not, probably because the citations are the only sources that state the given information. If there are no objections, I will re-write the early sections, with more in-line citations. Thanks, Horlo (talk) 09:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Cossacs" (Kozaki) were Slavs

Kozaki were and are Slavs. Stop with occultism. The term derives from the "goat-ers". Why are "historians" and "Linguists" always stealing slavic elements, cultural, mythological characters and proclaiming them as "non slavic"? Even Perun was proclaimed as "non Slavic"

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Gothic origins

@Trevoorijk: is attempting to add information on the gothic background of the cossacks. He is, I believe, attempting to use "Longworth, Philip (1970). The Cossacks. Holt, Reinhart, and Winston. ISBN 978-0030818554." as his reference. I opened this section so we could discuss it here.---- Work permit (talk) 17:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are correct as to the paper the user is referencing. I also agree that you are correct in reverting the additions: the content contended to be there simply isn't there. Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I even offered to help on the user talk page User_talk:Trevoorijk. I filled out a citation and asked for the page numbers to complete it. The editor was never been heard from again, never made another contribution.---- Work permit (talk) 01:40, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]